defector
10-09-2005, 10:33 AM
Just bought a 1992 Seca II which has only 1137 miles. It was not ridden since 1994.
Replaced battery, fuel in tank, did oil change, checked plugs (look OK physically), sprayed a bit of oil into each cylinder before running.
After a few tries the engine started but the sound at idle more more like a Harley than a Yamaha.
Finally, I noticed that the exhaust for cylinders #2/4 was cold...in fact I could put my hand on them w/out getting burned....while #1/3 would sizzle a wet rag.
To confirm, while the engine was running, I pulled the spark plug wires for cylinders #2/4 and the engine kept running normally. I couldn't do this with either cylinders #1/3.
So...I suspect that I have an ignition/spark/coil? (I don't have a repair manual yet) issue with cylinders #2/4.
Any suggestions or 'typical' Yamaha issues for me to be aware of?
I figure next I could pull the plug wires and plugs out to see how the spark at the electrode compares for all 4 cylinders.....or swap plug wires (both ends) for the working/non-working cylinders to see if the cold cylinders move.
betabilly
10-09-2005, 04:49 PM
It could be one of the the coils, could be wiring but after 11 years of not being run, you can consider the carbs need serviced also ( cleaning the carbs and fuel tank interior) I dont remember which coil fires which two cylinders but I would look for a spark between the plug wire and something metal on the engine. Hope you checked the compression before you bought it.
defector
10-10-2005, 11:18 AM
betabilly...thank you for your input. answers:
Cylinders #1/4 share a coil.
Cylinders #2/3 share a coil.
I've noticed that for both non-running cylinders, they are powered by the LOWER plug wire coming out of the two different coils.
As a next step, I plan to swap wires for cylinders #2/3 to see if I can get the cold cylinder to change from #2 to #3.
Stupidly, I tried to swap plug wires yesterday between cylinders #3/4 and nothing followed but backfiring (I forgot that the coil timing for cylinders 3/4 should/may be different).
It would have been easy if both cylinders were tied to the same coil.....but it appears that I'll have to hope for a "positional" issue for coils to be the issue. Both ends of the coil that mount to the frame were quite rusty...but not sure what impact that might have.
I do realize that I may have to get into the carbs but that is my last preference at this point, until I can verify that it is not electrical.
Other suggestions welcome from all...particularly any current/past Seca II owners.
I can't seem to find much on the net for there motorcycles....other suggestions to find those riders are appreciated too!
Madd-Mann
10-12-2005, 03:19 PM
This site is maintained by XJ owners, and they are very willing to give advice.
http://www.xjowners.com/index.html
This site has some parts that I had a hard time finding. To include the full fairing if you want it.
http://www.targa-acc.com/main_powersearch.html
I also have a 1992 Seca II. I haven't had any problems with it yet, besides the battery and spitting the chain, both with in a week of buying it.
I have a few other sights, but will need time to relocate them. I am just recovering from a reformat.
One more thing. On the first link (XJ Owners) website, if you look around, you will find a XJ Maintainance CD. Those people live by that CD. I haven't bought mine yet; however, I did ask if it was worth it and was overwhelmed with outstanding reponses about it. It is supposed to cover most maintainance on almost any XJ. I did look and the 1992 XJ600SD/C are included in the CD. If it is as good as they claim, you might want to invest $10 in the CD.
Jeremy
defector
10-13-2005, 06:22 PM
Madd-man.
Wow...I am really happy to hear that there is a small group of enthusiasts out there for the XJ. I'll give it a look.
I'll pick up one of the parts-guide. I'm sure I could use it.
Thanks again for the sites...any others, as time permits, are appreciated.
Good-day!
defector
10-16-2005, 08:55 AM
Not sure how often this issue has been seen, but after receiving my Clymer repair manual, found that when checking the secondary coil resistance -- for both sets of coils -- that the resistance was ~ double of the allowable specification (~ 33,000 ohms). I'm not sure if this is the only issue, but Clymer said to replace the coils.
What does everything think?