Lghtning4u 06-10-2004, 07:51 AM Can you read the writing on the wall folks?
Police begin muffling motorcycles
Portsmouth Herald, NH - HAMPTON - Police from Hampton, Exeter and Seabrook
conducted several planned enforcement and education stops on motorcycle drivers
in the Seacoast area this past weekend.
According to Hampton Police, approximately 40 motorcycles were stopped at
various locations in the Seacoast area.
Operators of the motorcycles were given a "Motorcycle Informational
Brochure," which outlines the various New Hampshire state laws and local ordinances.
Seacoast area police chiefs have joined with the American Motorcycle
Association to state their opposition to excessive motorcycle noise.
"Right now we are in the public-information stage so that folks get to know
the law and most of the people know that we are out there," said Lt. Dan
Gidley.
Gidley said the motorcycles that were stopped were done so because of
excessive noise.
The brochure asks motorcycle operators to be sensitive to community members
and visitors and respect the rights of everyone "to enjoy a peaceful
environment."
The brochure is meant to educate motorcycle operators about the illegal and
harmful effects of operating a motorcycle "altered to magnify the noise of the
exhaust system," according to the Hampton Police Department.
Gidley said ordinance violations are a result of revving of the engine,
peeling out or laying rubber, the misuse of braking power and deceleration and the
blowing of the horn except as a warning signal. Violators will receive a
minimum of a $50 fine.
According to state law, "no person shall operate a motorcycle which has a
measured noise level of more than 106 decibels on the decibel meter when measured
20 inches from the exhaust pipe at a 45 degree angle while the engine is
operating."
Individuals stopped over the weekend were not issued citations.
At least they are giving warnings it seems.
riggs77 06-10-2004, 09:33 AM I think this is a crock of shit who is the state law to tell me what I can and can not do to my ride they didn't take any part of the twenty grand out of thier pocketts to help pay for my scoot so state laws can bite my ass when it comes to how loud my bike is.
I think this is a crock of shit who is the state law to tell me what I can and can not do to my ride they didn't take any part of the twenty grand out of thier pocketts to help pay for my scoot so state laws can bite my ass when it comes to how loud my bike is.
That's your perogative. But remember, if ya get caught, your custom exhaust money is wasted and you pay a fine.
This is the main reason why I won't go to Daytona.
iron-eater 06-10-2004, 05:17 PM Yay! I think it`s great! Call me crazy but, all those loud bikes, most of them are drag pipes. There should be a law against them pipes. They should be made into chrome shinny swingsets! I know i`m goin to pee off those oldschoolers but drag pipes are one of the worst things for any bike. No back preasure, poor performance, and they are "I can`t get across town from the bar to the house without a ticket" loud! Ohh ya put them on and get a surge of power but, it ain`t till your in the top end wide open and who rides up there? Dragracers! Anyways take the same bike throw on a supertrapp or any tunable baffled pipe and feel that power clear threw the power band from 500 to 7500 Rpms instead of 6000 and above??? But who am I? lol :headbange
Ah, ya can do that with careful cam selection and gearing as well with drag pipes. But yeah, they are soooo loud.
I'm keeping my Anti-Reversion Drag Pipes Till I'm forced to part with um!
riggs77 06-10-2004, 08:57 PM Loud Pipes Save Lives; you never know when the rumble of your scoot will be the rumble the driver in the car heres rather than seeing you and it makes them think and look for you. /shrug :P
wyldekard 06-10-2004, 09:50 PM I think this is a crock of shit who is the state law to tell me what I can and can not do to my ride they didn't take any part of the twenty grand out of thier pocketts to help pay for my scoot so state laws can bite my ass when it comes to how loud my bike is.
Well riggs, on the other side of that coin, who the hell are you to wake me up at 2 or 3 in the morning, interrupt my conversation on the street, or annoy me because I don't like your exhaust note, because you decided to put loud ass pipes on that 20 grand scoot. I have loved motorcycles all my life. I live a quarter mile from the highway and it pisses me off something fierce when some ass with loud pipes is winding it out between midnight and 6 a.m. on the highway and wakes me up. And it happens all the damn time.
Iron-eater makes a damn good point. If you think those loud ass pipes bought you really usable power, you got screwed. You should have spent your money elsewhere in the engine.
Loud pipes make cagers aware? Think through the science. Where are your pipes the loudest. Directly behind the exhaust opening. Sound waves are directional and loose strength when radiating. The only place that loud pipes might make a cager realize you are there is if you are at a stoplight and they are coming up behind you. And that's if it's a little old lady with a new hearing aid battery and she doesn't have the radio on. Have you heard the amount of sound coming out of most of the cages today. They barely beat a fucking golf cart in a quarter mile race so the thing is loud ass stereos.
It should come as no surprise that the states would start to shut the loud pipes shit down. I won't be surprised at all if it results in a federal ban too.
No, this is a case of getting what you asked for and screwing over the rest of us too.
Lghtning4u 06-10-2004, 09:59 PM The issue here is not about loud pipes. It's about taking more of our civil liberties away. Before you know it the government will be telling you how many rolls of shit paper you can have. I for one want less government intervention in my life. Soon we will only be able to change the color & chrome on our scoots.
wyldekard 06-11-2004, 11:28 AM The issue here is not about loud pipes. It's about taking more of our civil liberties away. Before you know it the government will be telling you how many rolls of shit paper you can have. I for one want less government intervention in my life. Soon we will only be able to change the color & chrome on our scoots.
I have to disagree. Your civil liberties end at the point when they encroach on mine. At that intersection, in a civilized society, someone has to make a decision. In our society that someone is some level (county, city, state, federal) of government. You can't do what ever you damn well please, whenever you damn well please, and live in any type of society. Eventually you are going to piss someone off. You need to move to an island where you are the only citizen if you want complete and total freedom to live your life as you see fit. And as loud as you see fit. It's simple, loud pipes affect to many people other than the person who wants to run them on their bike.
Oh by the way, the government already has told you how much toilet paper you can have. It was called world war 2. ;) :D
riggs77 06-13-2004, 09:00 AM Year after year the gov't. has told us more and more things that we can not do and now they are starting in on Bikers Rights more and more. What's next telling us that we can't even own a Motorcycle? Well piss on that! That is why my forefathers came to America so they wouldn't be under a dictatorship and low and behold the more freedom that we give the Gov't. the more they run it like a dictatorship. You can have your views on Gov't. and I can have mine but the issue here is loud pipes, How many times have you been sitting somewere and heard a bike you take a minute look around and there they are coming right at you. Well Sheep Shit if it wasn't for them there Vance & Hines or maybe Rhinehardt, hell even possibly Bubs or Hooker or some home made set of pipes that are so frieking loud that you can't think straight or can't sleep (sounds like you need to re-insulate your house by the way, or maybe you should have thought about loud bike b4 you moved into a house right off the highway). Talk to some of the 1%er's and see what they have to say about thier way of life along with thier bikes and what they should be governed by on what they can do and what they can't. Ahh screw it not worth arguing over I just know I am going to have loud pipes till the day I die! and F@$*K who ever they piss off .
wyldekard 06-13-2004, 07:43 PM Yea Riggs you're right about one thing. It's not worth the effort to argue because you just don't get it. It's what you want and nobody else has the same rights as you or are as important as you because you are just so special. You don't give a rats ass that your crap affects other bikers because the world is all about your perceptions and desires only. How long did you spend in the military, what wars have you fought in, and what have you sacrificed that makes you so deserving?
I hope you have really deep pockets while you ride those loud ass pipes till the day you die. Or maybe you'll end up having to sell your ride to pay your fines. Of course if you don't like it here in this country, you could always move somewhere else. Best of luck to you.
I still say LOAD ASS PIPES SAVE LIVES it should be the bike owners say on this matter!!!!!!!! :beermug:
Bluelightz 06-13-2004, 08:12 PM You know I here the complaints on the straight pipes but to be honest the high pitched whine of the street bikes and the fart pipes on import cages are louder and more annoying.
And i live on a main drag no less then 10 bikes pass a day it don't bother me at all.. in fact my 4 yr. old son runs to the window to see them when a bike passes!!!!! :headbange
There are alot of folks that may not want to hear it at 2 am when you're on the way home from the bar.
I short shift the bike and ease into the neighborhood as best I can. But really, it's no worse then the neighbor mowing the lawn and it usually don't last as long.
I live near a SR44 bypass in Leesburg. I hear far more big trucks using jake brakes for what ever fucking reason then I do bikes.
riggs77 06-14-2004, 12:53 AM This is one great thing about this Nation we have a choice in what happens for the most part and if people stick together on issues then the majority rules. If the majority of people that don't like loud pipes would all ban together and fight the issue then they may get what they want but untill then I think all bikers with loud pipes should hammer past your house all night long. :finger:
nidan 06-14-2004, 08:33 AM I lean a little towards the"loud pipes save lives" side , but if they are too loud we risk legislation . I know of a few states where even my SE slipons are considered too loud , that's going too far. If people don't go to the extreme and keep the revs low through the neighborhoods then we have less chance of being legislated into silence.
wyldekard 06-14-2004, 09:50 AM If people don't go to the extreme and keep the revs low through the neighborhoods then we have less chance of being legislated into silence.
This is the point. When the actions of a very small percentage of riders forces every other biker on the road, which numbers in the millions, to suffer from legislation they had nothing to do with causing then that small percent of riders are wrong.
Tjinsdusa 02-27-2005, 12:07 PM Face it folks, the real reason you want loud pipes is to act like hot shit and piss people off, It has nothing to do with saving your life. The loud noise vents out to the rear and unless you are worried about somebody catching up to you, not seeing you, and running you over, then they do little good in that respect. Fact is you want loud pipes to act tough and rub it it others face and look for a confrontation. Same kind of people who litter, play their music too loud and not condsider other peoples rights. Well, back in the old days, when the world was a little less populated, this kind of thing could happen without stepping on others toes, but we live in a world now, where all of us have to be considerate or get slapped.
Quote from Riggs:
I think this is a crock of shit who is the state law to tell me what I can and can not do to my ride they didn't take any part of the twenty grand out of thier pocketts to help pay for my scoot so state laws can bite my ass when it comes to how loud my bike is.
Riggs is a perfect example of the kind of immature, self centered asshole who will make it hard on everybody so he can feel like Jesse James and roar his loud pipes, cuss, act tough and then fade away while more laws are passed because of inconsideration on his part and others like him. Consideration for others does not mean you aren't a "tough guy", it means you are human and intellegent. Paying "twenty grand" (big deal) doesn't grant you a license to tromp around on others. Grow up or lose it!
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