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    NHRA Gatornationals Pro Bike Results

    <img align="left" src="http://www.riderinfo.com/news_images/nhraprobike.gif" border="0" style="margin-right:6px" alt="NHRA bike" />The NHRA Pro Stock Motorcycle drag racing season opener at Gainesville Raceway this past weekend set the stage for a new world record and produced a new first time winner at the quarter mile drag strip as the final 16 teams raced each other, and the track. The record and the win were both earned by women.

    Angelle Sampey set a new World ET Record of 6.911 on Saturday in round four of qualifying backing up an ET of 6.919. However, that did not help last years number two Pro Bike points earner and number one qualifier of Sundayís race as she was knocked out of round one of eliminations leaving a light late. Karen Stoffer beat Angelle on a 0.004 light and an ET of 6.983 to Angelleís 0.119 reaction time and ET of 6.969.

    In another first round eliminations upset Sunday the reigning NHRA Pro Stock Motorcycle Champ, Andrew Hines, was sent to the trailer by Shawn Glen who ran an ET of 7.009. Despite a great reaction time of 0.051, Hines experienced problems with his ride at about the 250 foot mark ending his chances at a win for the day.

    After two rounds, the semi-finals pitted Karen Stoffer against Steve Johnson and Matt Smith against the new teammate of Andrew Hines, Ed Krawiec. Stoffer beat Johnson on a hole shot of 0.018 and an ET of 7.080 to win over Johnsonís better 7.069 ET. On the other side of the ladder Smithís 6.921 ET won over Krawiecís ET of 7.058. This sent Stoffer and Smith to the final both in position to be first time winners at the Gatornationals.

    In the final, round 4, of eliminations in Pro Stock Motorcycle at the NHRA POWERade Drag Racing Series, Matt Smith who qualified sixth had lane choice over 16th qualifier Karen Stoffer. As the tree went green, Stoffer, who had great reaction times all weekend, once again did so cutting a 0.053 light to Smithís 0.100 light. That hole shot handed the race and event to Stoffer and her Geico Suzuki team with and ET of 7.075 over Smithís better 7.069 ET.

    The next NHRA Pro Stock Motorcycle Drag Race is scheduled for March 30-April 1 at Houston Raceway Park. Look for coverage of O'Reilly NHRA Spring Nationals on ESPN2 3/31 and 4/1.
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    Just Damn. NHRA is letting .018 RT slide? When I was racing AMRA, anything less than a .05 was a redlight. I was one of the few pilots who actually "understood" the rule. Humans can't react that fast. In reality, anything faster than about a .1 RT is just guessing as to when the light's gonna turn. Sounds like NHRA is building the guess factor into the game.
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    I have noticed that math too. But I have not sat down and sorted it out. I don't know if it's a new way of writing it or if it's that a .400 light is no longer the minimum reaction time.

    I'll check the rules and make a phone call if necessary to get to the bottom of this.
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    According to the currently posted Drag Racing Made Easy write up on the NHRA website, the .400 delay is in there. They must be showing reation times by counting from zero starting after the .400 delay.
    Depending on the type of racing, all three large amber lights will flash simultaneously, followed four-tenths of a second later by the green light (called a Pro Tree), or the three bulbs will flash consecutively five-tenths of a second apart, followed five-tenths later by the green light (called a Sportsman, or full, Tree).
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    That wasn't my issue FX. The amount of time from the green light to you actually penetrating the start line is what I'm talking about. That is reaction time. In my racing days you redlighted if that amount of time was less than .05 second.

    Of course it's been five years since i've stood at the line, and rules change. I know that just about everybody bitched about the rule, so I can see it changing with time... but just damn. .018 rt is not reality. No human can react that fast, and if they're pulling .018 rt's they're jumping the gun and hoping they don't get off before the green.

    I guess it's all in how you play the game.
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    They start computing your elapsed run time from when you cross the starting line; I never realized they penalized you for having too quick a reaction time.
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    Yes Rick. In the past at least, and in the sanctions I've been involved with, reaction time was computed from the instant the light turned green until the instant you got on the throttle and pushed the bike across the start line. Studies have proven that a human cannot react to an unanticipated event in under about 200 milliseconds, and cannot react to an anticipated event in under 100 milliseconds. The green light is an anticipated event, and by the laws of physical behavior, you shouldn't be able to get on the throttle in under .1 second unless you are jumping the gun. The rules cut that to .05 to give the benefit of the doubt... but .018 is by all accounts physically impossible.
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    I am no mathamagician...but I do know a little bit about the reaction time studies that have been done over the years...I particpated in one at U of M that measured the reaction time at different stages of drunkeness...'If ya don't know this already...humans do not get better at reaction times with each drink taken...
    BW is correct about the time it takes to get on the throttle, and .018 would be considered fast even for a steel jawed trap...
    Anyway...after watching some of the races last sunday...I am thinking those milliseconds have gotta count a 1/4 mile down the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebighop View Post
    Anyway...after watching some of the races last sunday...I am thinking those milliseconds have gotta count a 1/4 mile down the track.
    Exactly, that's how you get a holeshot win. Your ET is slower than the other racer, but you left first.

    It happened several times at Sunday's NHRA Pro Stock Motorcycle Eliminations.
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    That's one of the things that has always mystified me about drag racing...
    I have seen slower ET's win and never could figure why....Thanks for clearing that one up for me...I can die peacefully now....LOL

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